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Old 08-27-2019, 01:55 PM   #1141
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another season of no real expectations. looking forward to seeing Guice play, and hopefully when Haskins takes over at some point he will not be shell shocked for next season and beyond.

way too early picks
Chiefs or Texans (even with the Miller injury) out of the AFC
Rams or Bears out of the NFC

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Old 08-28-2019, 02:18 PM   #1142
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haven't followed the offseason much at all, but i'll say patriots out of afc (this has been a 50/50 shot for almost 2 decades so why not) and, uhhh, shit the nfc tends to be sort of random so let's say the vikings

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Old 08-28-2019, 03:37 PM   #1143
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the vikes are as good a bet as anyone. I like most of the guys they have, and I root for COusins just because.

I just need someone new in the AFC. the hate train is over for me on most teams, but the pats just need to fade away for me. like I said no longer a hate thing, just fatigued on the same story each season.

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Old 09-10-2019, 02:54 PM   #1144
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skins gonna skin (themselves) sigh

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Old 10-07-2019, 02:42 AM   #1145
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good win over the cowboys. I was worried when adams was out but jones stepped up

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Old 10-16-2019, 01:35 PM   #1146
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my ability to care about the team I have cheered for as long as I can remember is almost all gone. I like so many of the young players, but just burnt out on the lack of leadership from ownership/management. all the horrible Snyder stories coming out, but everyone already knew he was a fucking asshole. Allen might be the worst to ever have the job in the history of any sport. I feel for the young guys the most, they are going to waste the first 4 or 5 years in a no win situation, then hopefully move on to have success elsewhere.

I am enjoying the league more this season however. I find myself going out of my way to watch Texans games. Watson is so damn fun to watch, hell even the Jags are interesting with Minshew.

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Old 10-17-2019, 09:41 AM   #1147
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feel the same about the titans tbh. and now they're throwing mariota under the bus as though the horrible o-line and 1950s offensive scheme aren't to blame. at this point i just pray marcus walks after this season and gets a shot on a real team

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Old 10-17-2019, 02:43 PM   #1148
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at this point he has to, unless they go back to him again and they see 'team' progress. he has been misused like so many young qbs. I think Vrabel is another of those guys who is a good to great coordinator...but just not built to be the head guy (at least not at this point). I could see him having success in a few places, Denver (clearly still need a qb, Flacco meh). he has carried himself like a pro from day one and has never once not owned up to his errors, and takes the blame for everyone else as well.

They really needed a true qb friendly coach from day one to groom him a bit. At Oregon while he showed accuracy and athleticism, he rarely had to work from under center, or not hit the initial read on a pass play. hopefully he has enough time left to turn it around elsewhere.

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Old 10-17-2019, 03:19 PM   #1149
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if you watch the games week to week it is baffling. there will be one week where they call the game in an uptempo way, passing on early downs, inventive ways to get the best players involved, etc. and he always looks good! and every time i'm like, thank god they've finally figured out how to use him and have turned a corner! but then the next week, nope. back to running up the middle on first and second down 95% of the time. i would love to see his stats passing broken up by down. because he's almost always only given the opportunity when it's 3rd and >5 and of course you won't look good in only obvious passing situations. it almost makes me physically sick. they've had how many guys come through since jeff fisher left? and yet, the offensive scheme remains fisher-ball year after year after year. and it's a scheme the league has moved on from at least a decade ago

and vrabel sucks ass. he makes "gutsy" calls when they make no sense, but then chicken-shit calls when more aggression is obviously smarter. like when he trotted out that kicker that had already missed 3 field goals for a 53 yard attempt on 4th and 3. he's a dumb piece of shit

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Old 10-17-2019, 03:58 PM   #1150
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haha. I get it, and this type of thing happens a lot. I did like what Draymond Green said (stay with me, even though he is hoops) that organizations do not take enough or any of the blame when a high draft pick fails. he is right, it is always this guy is a bust, etc. you bring a teen or not much older into a horrible situation without a plan or guidance and this is what happens.

sure some guys are just wastes for varying reason not associated with the team, but all too many are. instead of fixing that stuff, like the Skins...they just punt on a coach, player etc. then rinse and repeat the same thing again. Allen calling the culture 'damn good' , just about put me off the team until there is wholesale changes. Snyder will not sell because it is a cash cow. Allen for whatever reason is untouchable, but he has done a shit job at every single stop. guess I still do care more than I initially thought.

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Old 10-17-2019, 04:13 PM   #1151
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yeah i saw that (the green thing). and at first it's like "yeah no shit" because the teams that are consistently getting high draft picks are obviously the shittiest franchises. but there is something to be said about these teams that just seem to "luck" into good players. obviously it isn't just luck or being amazing at scouting because those things can be a crap shoot, but it's how the organization is run. it's also a bit of a self-fulfilling prophesy and in that way it is sort of just dumb luck. just look at the patriots. they were a loser franchise. belichick was a loser head coach. but they string a couple successful seasons together and it just keeps building from there. if bledsoe doesn't get hurt that year, who the hell knows how that plays out? but now, if a couple bad things happen it's easy to brush it off and be like "we're the patriots we'll figure it out." whereas a couple bad things happen to a team like the titans and the players are like "here we go again" and they stop listening to this loser coach who sucks and it just all falls apart.

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Old 11-04-2019, 08:58 PM   #1152
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do you think these young qbs going straight in to starting qb from day one plays a part in how their career goes? as opposed to rodgers and brady who sat behind a starter for a while

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Old 11-07-2019, 01:25 PM   #1153
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that really comes down to the expectation you have for them when you draft. that said it is all about organization and how they insulate the kids. so many things, spread system or pro system in college. years of experience starting. it all fits in somewhere.

some guys are great from day one, some because of talent like Marino (20tds in 11 games) well before it was a wide open passing league. Some guys fall into great situations and are allowed to grow into it. Big Ben, Russell Wilson. They joined teams with strong defenses, running games.

you look at Aikman for example, he was thrust into a pretty bad team day one. The players added in the coming drafts are what lifted the team to being great. Aikman to his credit did not fade away even when they went 1-15. Most rookie qbs that would have had that initial start to a career would have been out of the league inside of 3 years.

Deshaun Watson joined a team that was really just a qb away and instantly translated into winning for them. Then others like Rivers, Rodgers and Brady...all sat behind established all pro/hall of fame qbs. They all got opportunities due to injury or phasing out of others. Did they benefit from sitting, I would say Brady the most. He was not drafted to be the guy.

Rodgers was a steal, no way he should have fallen in the draft. Rivers was also good to go from day one. It is all circumstances. however if you have a shit situation, it is likely no matter when a young qb starts he will be damaged goods. sorry to be long winded, I am exhausted and my thoughts are all over the place.

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Old 11-07-2019, 08:42 PM   #1154
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no I enjoyed reading that. I guess it really is case by case. and also the type of character of the player - Rodgers has used that chip on his shoulder from falling in the draft/sitting behind favre to drive him to greatness. whereas some young guys may also use the confidence the franchise has in them to drive them.

crazy to think 49ers are the only remaining undefeated team. and bengals the only remaining winless team

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Old 11-08-2019, 02:43 PM   #1155
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the one thing that really hurt Rodgers was the 'Cal system qb'. a few teams had already taking flyers on prior guys and it did not translate well. most of those guys had big arms, but what should have jumped out for everyone is the accuracy of Rodgers. he could drop it in anywhere he wanted.

the niners are interesting. defense and running game are always hallmarks of a team built for a playoff run. need more of a sample size, and better competition to truly gauge how good they are.

as for the bengals, back to the young qb talk. Dalton had success early on, decent numbers but significant team success in the regular season. the team was not a complete trainwreck when he arrived, Green was drafted the same year earlier. So he had a legit #1 target right away. the defense was pretty good. he worked under center in college and it translated. no playoff success, but he has played pretty well this season with severe deficiencies on the line and missing Green all season.

they are going with Finley out of nc state the rest of the way. I liked him a lot in college, and was hoping the skins would have gone for him in the draft. Haskins has a ton more upside and arm talent, but needs a lot of work to reach what he can be. Finley is a guy you can plug in and expect him to be competent...much like Dalton.

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