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Old 07-03-2005, 02:06 AM   #61
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Tied game this morning between England & Australia, share the trophy.

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Old 07-03-2005, 03:01 AM   #62
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australia did very well to tie that. they looked done for after that batting performance but proved what a great bowling line up they have. however, at 5/33 australia really should have won the game.

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Old 07-03-2005, 07:23 AM   #63
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What a great match. :thumbsup

It was a difficult batting wicket - 196 wasn't a bad score against quality bowling.
The "old" England might have been blown away in that game, but now they can bat a lot further down the order.
Collingwood is the man to have in a crisis, while Garrant Jones and Ashley Giles are very useful to have batting at 7 and 8.

It's looking more and more like there's very little to seperate these two sides - lets see if anyone gets the upper hand in the 3 match Nat West Challenge (including new rules), which starts Thursday.

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Old 07-03-2005, 07:45 AM   #64
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i'm not sure about these new rules....i think they should leave the 50 over game the way it is...and maybe trial these rules on twenty20 or something. it will be interesting to see what happens though, i predict these changes are sucessful though...which i don't really want to see. anyway, i can't wait for the natwest challenge.

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McGraths Last over was dissapointing, full tosses and no balls, so unlike him!

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Old 07-03-2005, 08:03 AM   #66
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he did the right thing, tried to bowl yorkers. i think he did well and the critics of australia's bowling line up should shut their mouths for a while.

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Old 07-03-2005, 09:47 AM   #67
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As far as the new substitute rule goes, all I can see teams doing is;
When batting first - going in with an extra specialist batsmen, then subbing the worst non-bowling fielder with a top bowler when the innings changes over.
When bowling first - going in with an extra specialist bowler, then subbing the worst batsman for another top batsman when the innings changes over.
No thought by the captain necessary here.
This will result in genuine number 11 'batsmen' (ie McGrath )never needing to bat ever again.

The 2 lots of "power 5 overs" or whatever they are called, is more tactical, but i'm not sure we need 20 overs of fielding restrictions.
Mind you it will lead to more boundaries and bigger totals.

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Old 07-03-2005, 10:03 AM   #68
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mcgrath will hate that. he backs himself as a batsman after scoring that 61 against new zealand.

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Old 07-03-2005, 01:02 PM   #69
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You never know, maybe they'll sub someone else. :-O

Of course the benefit is, that once he's bowled, he can put his feet up, and save energy - might help add a few more years onto his career.

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Old 07-03-2005, 11:25 PM   #70
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i dunno about that, he never batted much anyway. australia used to rarely get down to the bowlers. australia will probably put watson as their 12th man. i think england will probably but a bowler as their 12th man.

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Old 07-04-2005, 05:51 AM   #71
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Hard to say who the sub will be.
If they are basing the side on the same team who played on Saturday;

Trescothick
Strauss
Vaughan
Pietersen
Flintoff
Collingwood
G Jones
Giles
S Jones
Gough
Harmison

Then there are 6 genuine bowlers;
Harmison, Gough, Flintoff, SJones, Giles, Collingwood.
plus a couple of part time bowlers;
Vaughan and Trescothick.

So I think they've got the bowling covered.
I reckon they'll choose an extra batsman in the squad, maybe Bell or Solanki.

The only question is, when do you have to announce who your sub is going to be ?

If it is after the toss, then the sub would most likely be Harmison if England were batting first, or if bowling first, possibly Strauss- Bell or Solanki are better fielders.

If it's before the toss, then they'll most likely keep the balance of the side the same as Saturday, because they've got the bowling covered, and have Bell or Solanki as sub.

Anyway, it'll be interesting to see what they do.

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yeah, the whole aussie team was there. two champions meeting in that picture.

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Old 07-05-2005, 06:06 AM   #73
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yeah, the whole aussie team was there. two champions meeting in that picture.
Eh ?, I see Federer, but I don't recognise the guy round the back.

What I've been told about the new substitute law, is that the player has to be nominated before the toss. This will make it a lot more tactical - maybe an all rounder would make the best type of player for a sub ?

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yeah, watson is an all rounder so i think australia will opt for him in the matches. i think england will go with solanki as their 12th man for the series.

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England have announced a 15 man squad for the 3 matches, and have decided to make a change from the Nat West Series squad. They've replaced bowler Kabir Ali, with Matt Prior - a batsman who can keep wicket, and has played in only 1 prevoius ODI.
So the squad is;
Michael Vaughan (capt), Paul Collingwood, Andrew Flintoff, Ashley Giles, Darren Gough, Steve Harmison, Geraint Jones (wk), Simon Jones, Jon Lewis, Kevin Pietersen, Matt Prior, Vikram Solanki, Andrew Strauss, Chris Tremlett, Marcus Trescothick

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i think england will go with solanki as their 12th man for the series.
Yep, I'll be suprised if they don't go with Solanki.

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Old 07-06-2005, 06:58 AM   #76
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i expect an explosive start to the series by australia, if they sort their batting out, i think they will be very hard to beat. many of the australian team have said they wish the ashes would just start already.

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Yeah, it's been a long drag since they arrived here at the beginning of June, and there's still another 2 weeks before the first test match.
At least they can't complain about being underprepared.
In a way England have lost a slight advantage they might have had, if they'd played a 'cold' Australia in the first test, almost straight after their arrival.
This used to happen in previous ashes series.

As for tomorrow's match, I hope the weather holds up.
Everyday this week it's been wet, windy and cool (low 60's) where I live - which is fairly near Headingley. But the forcast appears to be better - sunny, with passing showers, for tomorrow afternoon.

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Old 07-06-2005, 11:30 PM   #78
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it could either be a positive or negative for england that they don't get into the test matches straight away, more practice against australia can only be a good thing. can't wait...only 5 hours to go now.

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Old 07-07-2005, 05:07 AM   #79
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Do you get to see the games live, over in Oz ?
They must finish at around 3 or 4 in the morning...and as for day-nighters ?

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yep, the game starts at around 8:00pm here and finishes around 3 or 4, day/nighters start at about midnight and finish at around six. i try and stay up to watch them all, i usually catch all the day games and most of the day nighters.

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Old 07-07-2005, 02:20 PM   #81
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england win. not much to say really and i'm sure the players aren't jumping for joy after what has happened today. not a nice note to win on at all. both teams would have been affected by this terrible news. england win convincingly though.

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Old 07-07-2005, 05:00 PM   #82
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I'm not gonna gloat, England had by far the easier batting conditions.
Nice to see Paul Allot mention the sad events down in London, at the prensentation ceremony.

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Old 07-08-2005, 12:34 AM   #83
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next match on saturday. the supersubs didn't provide a whole lot of difference and either did the powerplays. not sure if they'll be kept or not.

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Too early to say for me. It was a bit of a freak match yesterday.
Because of the conditions, and the fact that neither team were scoring quickly, it made the decision to use up all the powerplay overs at the start of the innings, fairly easy for each captain. It might be a different story on a good batting wicket.

As for the subs, yesterdays match was a bit unusual in the fact that England only lost 1 wicket, and never got near to Solanki's number 8 batting position. I'd definately have preferred Solanki batting rather than Simon Jones if he'd been needed. Plus Solanki is a much better fielder. A good substitution and at the right time (as soon as Jones finished his bowling spell), I thought.
As for Australia's sub Hogg, he came in handy when Watson got injured.

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was the wicket not moving around as much when england were batting? i couldn't see, i was just checking the score updates on the internet, they didn't seem troubled at all.

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It moved around a lot at first when it was cloudy- (Trescothick was caught off a Bret Lee no ball when he was only on 5, and Gilchrist put down an easy chance too) but after a few overs the sun came out, and it soon made quite a difference. There was still movement, but not as much.
I don't know why it should be, but the weather at Headingley seems to affect the pitch more than any other test ground in this country.

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australia have lost alot of important tosses on this tour, the wickets have been unpredictable and i think australia has alot of trouble facing swing. if the picth had not had any movement i think the result would have been quite different.

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I'm hoping Australia continue to have difficulties against swing, it's one of the advantages England should have by playing at home.
The ideal pitch for one-day cricket, really should be a dead flat run maker, but with good pace, which allows bowlers to at least get some life out of it.

I think, the weather forcast is good all day for Sunday, so there shouldn't be any advantage. The match is still going ahead despite the terrorist events.

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series 1-1. match 3 should be a beauty, i can't wait for it tonight.

from sundays match:

england - 8/223
a. flintoff - 87
p. collingwood - 34
b. lee - 5/41

australia - 3/224
r. ponting - 111
d. martyn - 39*
a. giles - 1/38

australia win by 7 wickets. it was a very good game for australia, they never really looked in trouble at any point. gilchrist got our chase off to a flying start blasting 29 off about 16 balls and it was good to see ponting return back to form with a stunning 100. tonight should be a very interesting game.

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This win was as easy for Australia, as it was for England the other day.

Meanwhile todays farcical England top order batting performance, is beginninig to get worrying. Aussies are currrently cruising to victory on a batsmans paradise, where England only managed a paltry 228 for 7.
Also, why we're continuing to play Gough is beyond me.

Anyway, next stop the test series.

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