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Old 07-11-2019, 02:45 PM   #781
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haha yeah I did skip season 2 and 3 originally when they aired. season 1 was just so boring. a coworker spoke highly of season 3, so I used the amc app to catch up. he was right, it gained a lot of momentum...but now it seems to have lost most of it.

The addition of Morgan and Dwight are not really the issue, actually most of the characters are pretty interesting and have good chemistry. it is still the story telling/plots they put them in which is the issue. as soon as gimple became more involved, the show devolved.

as for the helicopter crew, yeah there have been a few shots. even an episode that gives a bit of a glimpse into who they are, but still very secretive. you do get to see one interact with a major Fear actor for an entire episode. while I am not big on the standalone episodes...that was the best one of this season.

I still think it is a much better show comparing between the two.

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Old 07-12-2019, 01:14 PM   #782
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I remember reading that the final stand alone issue was going to have a select number of pages which equaled what 3 monthly installments would be. I can not confirm since I am avoiding until I catch up.

I would think they would include it with the last book. it does not release until sometime in September, which gives them plenty of time to make sure it is added.

sounds like you got a bit of an ocd collection issue as well. haha I am the same way, book spines of a series have to match. same with movies and games.

also, it is kind of sad that this is now the most active thread on the board. walking dead is more than appropriate.

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Old 07-30-2019, 12:22 PM   #783
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I decided to just go with the volumes to get current. I am up through issue 186, and the last volume comes out in a couple of weeks...which will wrap it up.

I will say issue 186 ends on a note I did not expect. I love misdirection when well done, and this was. the great part if it was not out of character for those involved, it was just really well done and abrupt.

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Old 07-30-2019, 03:11 PM   #784
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correct, book 15 runs through issue 180.

I finally felt good enough about my eyes after my retina treatment that I gave book 15 a read last weekend. I then decided I was not patient enough to wait until September for the last book. So I ordered volume 31 and preordered 32, which is out soon. I will then pass them to my nephew and eventually get the last book to complete the set. I was just so far behind and catching up was a blast.

you really remember why it is a good story when you get to read it. I do worry that the last few are going to feel rushed or incomplete. what just occurred at the end of my last read opens the door for tons more material, but then there were only 7 issues and its over.

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Old 08-27-2019, 01:39 PM   #785
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sean, no worries. the comic had what I thought was a truly touching ending. even more after it set it. kirkman also has a pretty long note to readers where he explains what his original intent was, but the how things just changed as the comic went on.

there is one pretty emotional page in particular which got me good, the eyes watered a bit. partially for the characters, and in part because some of it just brought back memories of me and my dad.

nothing felt like it was done to shock, but there are some really unexpected things that happen. I think the book you are waiting on comes out next month. let me know what you think.

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Old 09-10-2019, 02:53 PM   #786
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think the last book drops today, hope you dig it.

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Old 09-13-2019, 11:30 AM   #787
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you might need a bit more time for it all to sink in, you binged a big story pretty quickly. thankfully to me having no patience the volumes broke it up a bit easier. no need to use spoilers in here.

knowing that Rick's death was coming did kind of weaken it a bit, at least for the impact of seeing him killed. seeing Carl that next morning, full of joy, being carefree...then walking in to see Rick in that state. it was an immediate torch pass moment. he had to be the one to end his suffering, I found that powerfully sad. the grief process is backward in this world.

there were the obvious parallel with Rick/Negan and now Carl/blank on the name right now. even the scene with the prison cell felt so similiar. then the threat at the end.

Carl's breakdown heading off to bury Rick, and the shot of everyone who was going in the caravan gave me a few chills as a reader.

So the time jump. I liked most of it, sure some was a little off. I liked the Herschel angle. It served a couple of purposes, it showed Maggie failed him as a parent in many regards. It also just showed how far removed people were from the fear of the 'old' days.

The entire court proceeding was what felt way off, since almost everyone agreed with Carl before any of that transpired. if you want Carl to give a big speech about Rick and what he did, just declare a Rick Grimes day and have at it. I guess it also allowed for a 'fuck yeah there is Michonne' moment.

the comment by a couple of the kids when leaving the courthouse. Rick to them is just like so many statues that kids do not give a shit about today. Carl and those who were there hold him so high, a bit too much in my opinion. Rick was a flawed and often times bad leader, but he always thought he was putting others first.

The bed time story wrap up was pretty good, and it was a bit more true at its heart about Rick. it made reference to mistakes and indecision. the tone was obviously triumphant, but it had some balance.

wrote more about this than i figured I would.

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Old 09-13-2019, 04:56 PM   #788
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I forgot to mention Dwight. that was one that got me as a reader. not so much his death, I suspected it would happen, maybe even by Rick...just not under those circumstances and certainly not at that moment. at least for me that was a really rough one to view. Dwight was as close to Rick as anyone for a significant period of time.

also the little touch of Carl and Sophia's daughter being named Andrea. I am a sentimental, mushy guy most of the time anyway. it only gets more devout with age. that small thing I really enjoyed, also when Carl refers to her as mom before leaving for Hilltop several issues prior to the Commonwealth storyline. I believe he was with Rick at her grave for that part.. even the scenes of Rick sleeping next to her grave. that is some heavy, heavy shit when you get down to it.

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Old 09-16-2019, 02:28 PM   #789
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haha, I did not even think much about what kind of justice system was installed. I just remember thinking the entire court part was the most ridiculous in my opinion. the fact you could own a human as property, turned or not seems like a big step backwards in general.

first wife, was Lori...and yeah they rarely bring her up after her death. I find that odd for a myriad of reasons.

aside from Maggie I think Carl and Sophia are the only original cast left, and of course they came before Maggie. I just always count her in.

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Old 09-17-2019, 01:57 PM   #790
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good question. I guess that is one of those moments when you just have to forget about factual details and just go with what the plot is trying to deliver. I guess the best I can figure is maybe they were updating or retrofitting areas that were in need of it. unless they made mention of it being new passages?

the entire trip by Carl was just a glorified montage. it served its purpose, although the woman still being salty about Dwight seemed a little out of place.

Dwight was coming from the right place in wanting to liberate. that said she has to know the way he wanted to go about it would have gotten most if not everyone killed.

like was she there because she was skilled/helpful or was she exiled out there. that would have been a good subject to at least touch on for a page or two. instead Carl was a little self righteous invoking Rick again.

all these shortcomings of the last issue and I still thoroughly enjoyed it.

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Old 09-18-2019, 02:50 PM   #791
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they will cover it on AMC.

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Old 09-19-2019, 03:00 PM   #792
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good points. I would hope the whisperer arc is only one season. it really is not as strong a villain story as Governor/Woodbury or Negan/Sanctuary. Alpha and Beta while menacing, really only instill fear early on, with heads on the pikes. I feel like after that the communities really has no fear and united much more quickly. this is all based on how I felt reading the comic.

I assume all of the leader stuff will fall to Judith at some point, likely another time jump after the whisperer story is finished. so maybe she is the new Rick, and in some regards RJ (that was his name right?) will take on more of the Carl role?

it will need to be crafted, which is not a strong part of the show. I could see RJ being in the same scenario as Carl at the end, but they need a more definitive timeline to finish the show. I think this season, and then two more to wrap it up is perfect. I really do want the Commonwealth story.

then they can have spinoff shows galore, I will likely not care enough to follow them. although I do enjoy Fear more than I should, just something about it is more fun.

again, all this said. the upcoming movies could change everything. will it fill in gaps, create new timelines, or maybe even reunite? I would enjoy an ending of Judith and RJ finding Rick as a captive in Commonwealth. they break him out and take over. He would then die saving them...etc.

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Old 09-20-2019, 10:54 AM   #793
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haha, I think they called the kid RJ but I am far from certain.

it all depends on how they handle future time jumps, or if it goes in an entirely different direction. I think since we have seen references to the commonwealth; they have to explore it now, right?

if the whisperers are handled before seasons end, then they could begin the shift. maybe have each of the last 2 seasons have a time jump. yeah RJ is late to the show, but the show always fast tracts characters. the movies will really be the bigger thing in relation, unless there will no overlap.

do you ever wonder if Kirkman's involvement is to feed them some general ideas of things he was too nervous to try in the comic?

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Old 09-20-2019, 12:53 PM   #794
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he is likely not involved much, more of a consultant is my guess. I just wonder if he ever thought of alternate things to try and just passed them on. perhaps not expecting them to be used, but since the writing is mostly bad; maybe they ran with it.

it is likely that the character's just has other things to do, college for Riggs and family for Lincoln. so they just needed a way to wrap things up for them. although in regards to Riggs, there have been so many things said, sounds like he really wanted to hang around.

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Old 09-20-2019, 02:07 PM   #795
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yeah it just depends on what story you hear related to it. the one I think is the most reasonable, is he wanted a hiatus to go to college. obviously not 4 years, but a chance to get a chance to have a 'normal' college experience. at least for a bit.

just like Lincoln is doing. he is gone for now, but with movies...I suspect at some point they will tie him back into the show. just on his timetable.

also, since they killed off Henry (hooray) the 'Car/Lydia' storyline is no more. so everything is already doing to be drastically different. I am curious to see how this season plays out, because without that as the backbone of the story it feels really hollow already.

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Old 09-23-2019, 03:18 PM   #796
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ewww, then it is going to be extra cringe worthy this season. the best I can gather from the previews it looks like he and carol are off together a bunch. big meh

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Old 10-17-2019, 02:56 PM   #797
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I was waiting to get a few more recorded and binge on a rainy weekend. I will likely watch them sometime this weekend instead. my wife is surprisingly anxious to start this season already. she started watching during season 3...at this point I think it is more for her to see how the show can go on without Rick. like seriously it feels like without him and Carl the show will just go down the shitter so fast. I do enjoy JDM's portrayal of Negan most of the time...so that might at least give me some more incentive to stick around.

also, it feels like they have suckered me into 9 seasons. so I have to see this through kind of thing.

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Old 11-26-2019, 04:02 PM   #798
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every time I see you post in here, it reminds me to watch and catch up. have had hardly any downtime the last month. eventually I am going to binge this shit show.

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Doubt anyone else is still stupid enough to be watching this (though maybe with the quarantine people will get desperate), but the latest “twist” was just fuckin awful. Like, it was obvious it was going there but also completely ridiculous how it played out. Why would he have to wait so long? He had plenty of other opportunities to kill her. Why did he have to kidnap Lydia? Why did he involve himself in literally murdering people from the hilltop (the guys hanging from trees) and destroying the place? Why was there the weird romance plot between them? Just utter nonsense only meant to drag things out for half a season when they have no business being dragged out. And anyway they could have had negan kill her pretty much immediately (like in the books) had it be a genuine shock for once, and still dragged this out with beta as the leader this whole time if they wanted to. I never found alpha all that compelling to begin with tbh, though it’s obvious the writers thought otherwise

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