game of thrones (hbo)

i liked her a lot too

i wrote a big response out but it was just a bunch of shit about later books, so i scrapped it. let me just say i didn't mind her acting, per se, just the way they characterized her (at this point in the series) and her, in my opinion, dumpy looks

ah, well i'm way behind on the books. currently reading a clash of kings and i'm only through the section that roughly corresponds to the end of last week's episode. even though the show doesn't follow the book nearly as stringently as last season, i like watching the episode on sunday and then catching up on the book throughout the week

i found her really attractive though

not that i even thought she was ugly at all. she's of course very attractive. but, i don't know, isn't margaery supposed to be like the most attractive girl in the world or something?

and just so i don't come off as sexist, i don't think they made loras as attractive as i thought he was supposed to be either. or renly for that matter

i imagined her having basically that same face and eye shape. and i think her characterization was good and started to establish her as cersei's foil, she's pragmatic and smart enough to know that she has to deal with renly and loras's thing if she wants to solidify renly's claim by having his heir. even if it was sorta weird that she inexplicably knew about it.

Originally Posted by pecken

and i think her characterization was good and started to establish her as cersei's foil

see that's the thing, though, ah fuck it:

 it's better if you are wondering if cersei is just insane in her obsessive worrying about margaery at first. in the books, it's only slowly revealed that she's actually a legit nemesis to cersei and it works so much better that way. in the show it seems they've already blown their load with "ok this girl is actually a really smart and conniving player in this game" and that just doesn't make for as interesting a story, in my opinion 

really happy to see your old dawn of the dead sig is back, sean. that's (the sig, i mean) an all-time fave.

sorta boring episode this week.

Originally Posted by sean

or renly for that matter

Smilie or avatar worthy?

Originally Posted by sean

see that's the thing, though, ah fuck it:

 it's better if you are wondering if cersei is just insane in her obsessive worrying about margaery at first. in the books, it's only slowly revealed that she's actually a legit nemesis to cersei and it works so much better that way. in the show it seems they've already blown their load with "ok this girl is actually a really smart and conniving player in this game" and that just doesn't make for as interesting a story, in my opinion 

yeah this is valid. i actually agree.

Originally Posted by billy,

really happy to see your old dawn of the dead sig is back, sean. that's (the sig, i mean) an all-time fave.

i knew i recognized that but i couldn't place it.

Good episode overall. Like the way they showed Tyrion's ploy, cutting from conversation to conversation.

Also thought it was a good idea to combine the assault on Yoren's escorts with Arya's eventual capture at the town into one scene. The show, for various reasons (budget for one, destruction & battles are expensive), hasn't been playing up the degree of terrorism going on in the books to the countryside. Its an easier story method to just make it seem like they were captured by the people looking for Gendry.

yeah i was slightly irked by the rushing of that story, but i understand it and don't mind it too much

sean, you 100% nailed the margeary characterization. while trying not to spoil too much important from later books, throughout storm of swords at least she is presented as nothing more than an innocent playmate for sansa and naive pawn fiancé for you know who. her understanding of the game isn't revealed until feast for crows, and it provides that extra impact to the climax of cersei's arc. ill be interested to see how the show runners end up giving us the cersei story in crows, along with some earlier developments, now that we have a more omniscient perspective.

i read way, way ahead of the series these past two days. the show obviously doesn't follow the same pace or order, but it has some amazing source material to work with for this episode and the next few

 cant wait to see how they handle arya's capture and the death of renly 

my sister walked in right at the shadow birth and it might have scarred her for life

Originally Posted by Cole

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 cant wait to see how they handle arya's capture and the death of renly 

Jed thought the latter was going to happen last week...now I wonder if it will even happen next week.

it better. some things are shooting way ahead and others (like that) are being dragged out forever. it's weird to me that the first season was so true to the source material (more so than anything i can even think of at the moment) and this season it's just off the rails

i mean, i'm still enjoying it and it's not like they've changed anything too significant, but it's just kind of jarring in contrast to the first season

Pretty enjoyable. Seems like they cheated their way out of showing another battle scene though. Part that lead up to it was pretty fun though.

also what the hell was that stuff with robb and the field nurse? was she supposed to be  the girl he eventually marries?  because i don't remember anything like that and don't see why she'd be doing that

hey, are all of the spoilers in this thread just related to a clash of kings? i just finished it, but i don't want to see a spoiler for future books

incredibly addicting. i'll probably start a storm of swords this weekend

oh man, have fun with that. definitely one of the most just purely entertaining books ever; pretty much every payoff/plot thread/scene is awesome.

Originally Posted by Cole

hey, are all of the spoilers in this thread just related to a clash of kings? i just finished it, but i don't want to see a spoiler for future books

i'm not positive since i read the books around 2008 but just to be safe, i'd say don't look at the spoilers for now.

I found this in the mail yesterday.
@Cole is the best. That is all.

@Cole, most of the spoilers are talking about general stuff pertaining to the entire rest of the series so i'd probably avoid them

Originally Posted by sean

also what the hell was that stuff with robb and the field nurse? was she supposed to be  the girl he eventually marries?  because i don't remember anything like that and don't see why she'd be doing that

i really don't think so.

 the character on the show's name was something like tusilla, which is not even close to his wife's name in the books. 

the shadow thing really freaked me the fuck out, even though i knew it was coming. my reaction was pretty much in line with davos'.

they didn't bare dany's breast and dammit i need some targaryen nudity this season

not the most thrilling episode, but i enjoyed it. they really started out with a bang there.

costumes were great. loved that crazy-ass dress margeary was wearing in the scene when she said she wanted to be "THE queen."

does anyone know where they film this show?

i thought it was a really good episode, though margeary's dress has been distracting me since last week. and why would she be wearing it again the next day!? and it looks so stupid!

but whatever. it kind of seems like they're rushing shit to cover the second book in the second season, but they don't need to do that, since there's only 5 books and the show is clearly going to catch up to them (and probably surpass them) and they could stretch it out and cover everything and still probably catch up well before martin's done (if, God willing, he finishes it before he dies)

mostly ireland with some scenes in croatia and iceland this season

and yeah margaery's dress was great as dumb as that scene was

thanks pecken