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I stopped watching this show so long ago, yet one of my greatest fears is that the final season will be amazing and I'll have to sit through 5+ seasons of shit.
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#902 |
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I will say that parts of 6 and almost all of 7 and 8 were tough to get through. the story just seemed to go nowhere. sure you have to flesh things out a bit more for a tv show or movie but man they really dragged some of it out.
perhaps it is all the changes this season, but it does feel like a show worthy of my time again. there is also a fair amount of uncertainty again. that said there have been a few moments this season where the annoyance factor was raised. |
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i actually forgot about michonne's scar, even though like you said they basically had a football announcer pop in and draw a circle around it. for whatever reason i kind of assumed that was from some kind of surgery? maybe because it was a perfect X? i dunno. honestly if they're gonna do that big of a time jump i hope they just stick with it for better or worse. if they start showing prolonged flashbacks for every character i'm gonna be annoyed tbh
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agreed. they can still address without giving an entire episode to it. just a minute or two glance at what was the cause/result.
I was also confused with the richonne baby at first. I though it might be her imagination showing her son before this all started. it now makes a lot more sense she was talking to him and not just rick/carl. I still feel like that could be the play, its just her mind playing tricks on her. the woman outside looked confused. who knows if it was because she saw the kid, or saw michonne acting out like a person was there. |
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hmm. that would be a dirty trick, since the shot from outside is clearly meant to portray the POV of prison girl. but as we've seen many times, this show is not above playing dirty tricks on the audience
the other thing is, it's supposed to have been like 7 years right? judith certainly seems to have gone from like 2 to at least 9 years old. but the more i think about it (and this is just from my recollection of a 2 second scene so i could be wrong) that kid in the window looked no more than 3 or 4 years old, which wouldn't align with it being rick's, right? |
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my wife mentioned that as well. have they addressed the exact length of the big time jump yet?
the first was 18 months in episode one if memory serves. the second episode then jumped 30 days to deal with work on the bridge. after you know who left...I am not sure how much time has passed. was Judith that young before? I thought when they defeated the saviors she was like 4 years old or so. so 5 years might work for the overall jump...or did they say in the last episode how long it has been in totality? I sometimes look at the timeline on wiki and it seems really hard to imagine, but does make some good points about certain key moments. so who knows. there is a theory floating around that Negan is the father. I know it sounds crazy, but you know---this show right.? perhaps in a comforting moment she was weak is what is being suggested here and there. I doubt it. my interest is on who runs Hilltop. We know it is a female leader, but did Maggie stay or has Enid or someone else stepped up? |
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did some quick googling so if you want to keep speculating don't read
time jump is 6 years. kid is real and is indeed rick's (seeing a picture now he looks older than i remembered him looking and could easily be 5+) as far as maggie, that actress is leaving the show too, right? maybe they used the jump to just have her disappear to be explained later? seems like kind of an anticlimactic end for such a major character but giving her a similar send-off to rick at this point would seem cumbersome/redundant |
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also i guess you could view her story with negan and deciding not to kill him as a kind of finale of sorts
speaking of that plot, do you think they'll ever acknowledge that daryll is now basically responsible for rick's death on top of glenn's?? without his ruse trying to distract rick, he likely isn't put in the position of having to try to divert that herd by himself at the last second, right? |
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good question. there were moments where Daryll did blame himself (mostly when he was locked away at Sanctuary). I believe he brought his guilt to Maggie and she did absolve him of it. I think his character at his core is a genuine good person but never sees the big picture. I do suspect he will blame himself for Rick's removal (I will not call it a death since we did not see it, they already got us once with Glenn).
thanks for the info on the time jump. so that would have made Judith in the 3 year old range. so the new addition could be around 5 years old. I know it is so trivial being a tv show but I wish these details were addressed more directly |
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Oh I don’t even think they’re pretending ricks dead. Not sure if you missed the very end of that episode, but he gets pulled out of the river by trash lady and flown out in a helicopter. also I think the producers have confirmed that he’s going to have like a spin-off miniseries or made for TV movie or something?
Anyway, I guess that last episode answers the Maggie question. I wonder if they’re leaving these characters alive and just “gone” because they want to bring them back for whenever this show actually ends? Otherwise pretty uneventful episode. I like the touch of having Jesus listening to the Jesus and Mary chain tho |
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mid-season finale was pretty good despite it basically just building to a reveal that comic readers already know. i don't like that they killed off jesus, though. i guess the actor wasn't happy with the portrayal so it may have been necessary, but ironically this season they seemed to finally be getting the character right, so it's a shame. especially right on the heels of writing off rick and maggie (and honestly, with Danai Gurira having a budding film career i wouldn't be surprised if she peaces soon too).
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#912 |
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saw the teaser for 2nd half of the season. you know alpha and beta looked pretty good.
oh also I forgot to mentioned earlier I know Rick was not killed off, but was just saying it because of how Daryll and other characters perceive things after. |
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