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Old 02-03-2013, 05:24 PM   #31
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Old 02-03-2013, 05:31 PM   #32
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The forced apologies in caving to these PC retards might be the worst part of all of this.

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Old 02-03-2013, 05:51 PM   #33
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POC

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"people of colour" is actually a well-accepted academic term for some reason

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Old 02-03-2013, 05:53 PM   #34
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Old 02-03-2013, 05:57 PM   #35
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"people of colour" is actually a well-accepted academic term for some reason
yeah I've heard that term plenty. But calling it "POC" takes it to a whole new level of douchey.

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Old 02-03-2013, 05:58 PM   #36
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i was editing this article today and this writer called black people "African American" and i cringed

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Old 02-03-2013, 06:27 PM   #37
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i'm currently reading a biography of george w bush and there's a part where it details his first campaign spending millions of dollars in california without anyone knowing why.

pretty amazing.
In the final weeks of the 2000 election, the campaign (Rove decision IIRC) decided to appear and stump in the state for no reason other than to get the media to speculate that they were so confident about victory that they would try to steal California.

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Old 02-03-2013, 07:54 PM   #38
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also rubber cat your avatar is seriously abusive to transcats and cats of color. by saying that cats of color are nothing more then toys your non-cat privilege is showing.
it's a real cat you rude... person (no offense to otherkin)

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Old 02-03-2013, 08:29 PM   #39
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In the final weeks of the 2000 election, the campaign (Rove decision IIRC) decided to appear and stump in the state for no reason other than to get the media to speculate that they were so confident about victory that they would try to steal California.
well it was 50% that and 50% because the bush campaign was actually really revolutionary in it's use of micro-targeting voters, but at the same time was really over-confident in how it'd work. bush actually thought he had a chance in california the way he won west virginia despite everyone in the media assuming it'd go democratic.

obviously creating the image of an inevitable victory was a part of it, but not all of it.

the other thing was the bush campaign's "50 states strategy" where they actively wanted to campaign in every single state to prove they were beyond partisanship, echoing nixon's strategy.

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Okay, fine.

But it so very nearly cost them.

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Old 02-03-2013, 09:23 PM   #41
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sorry i was just being a nerd.

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Old 02-03-2013, 09:55 PM   #42
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think you guys are getting a little carried away with this

sure there's a few mongoloids involved with this stuff but pretty big 'political correctness gone MAD' vibes in here

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Old 02-03-2013, 10:00 PM   #43
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This is political correctness gone wrong though. what are you talking about?

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Old 02-03-2013, 10:10 PM   #44
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what other insignificant subgenres of tumblr blogs am i not even remotely aware of?

boggles the mind.

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Old 02-04-2013, 01:46 AM   #45
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soft grunge is pretty terrible

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Old 02-04-2013, 06:26 AM   #48
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silly jakebert. orange county isn't even our state's worst county.
For the record, San Diego is. Conservative asshole of the entire state, and we're right on the border for extra discrimination fun!

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think you guys are getting a little carried away with this

sure there's a few mongoloids involved with this stuff but pretty big 'political correctness gone MAD' vibes in here
Yeah, no matter how bad the left gets with this shit (and it is indeed pretty unbearable), the whole "PC gone Mad" reductionist bullshit the right will drop so callously is completely insufferable. At least we can argue over the bullshit on this blog. There is nothing to even discuss or gain from those on the right who refuse to engage in any sort of thought.

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So which is worse? Social justice activists on tumblr or men's rights activists on reddit?

Is there a way we can have them meet too, so they can solve the real issues???

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Old 02-04-2013, 01:02 PM   #51
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i'm generally with @joe and @brentmoney. when people i know call out some of the obviously overreaching aspects about extreme PC-ness that this thread is about i usually infer that it's their way of discrediting actual level-headed social justice initiatives via disingenuously/reductively blowing those things out of proportion. but i think people here are aware of the distinction so i don't mind having a thread about it.

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Old 02-04-2013, 01:45 PM   #52
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I said in my initial post that I fully agree with real, level-headed social justice initiatives. In fact, I think that's how most boarders feel. Actually, in the link to "social justice" tagged posts on tumblr, some of the anti-social justice points seemed just egregious as the overly-PC ones, if not worse. I thought it would be fun, however, to explore some of the overreaching ones. I was actually curious to see if anyone would defend them, but so far, that hasn't been the case.

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Old 02-04-2013, 03:29 PM   #53
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yah, the problem is how these people go about their opinion, not what their fundamental views are.

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i guess it depends on what you mean by fundamental view. if you're simplifying it to say "they're against racism/sexism/bigotry," then sure, the core fundamental view is fine. but the extreme nature of some of their views (and how that manifests itself in "how they go about" their opinions) suggests flaws even in their own fundamentals. i mean, i guess at its core the tea party (if we accept they have any coherent philosophy at all), is simply a group against government waste of taxpayer money. certainly non-objectionable. but since they seem woefully ignorant of the root causes of such problems, their fundamental view itself is on pretty shaky ground. much in the same way these idiots saying white people can't contribute to a dialogue on racism with a minority under any circumstance don't seem to understand the root causes of systemic prejudice themselves.

but brent and joe are just overreaching in a thread that has an otherwise very obvious purpose. to reduce what we're saying in a way that equates it with right-wing dolts who deny these social issues outright is silly. just because there's a parallel between the problems we're discussing here, and a specific form of right-wing rhetoric does not mean we're treading close to their territory whatsoever. there is such a thing as left-wing PC dipshits taking their views to a non-constructive extreme...and taking issue with that does not put you on equal footing with the far right who outright denies social injustices to begin with.

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yeah, i was simplifying things and i agree with you.

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There is something fundamentally wrong with this game. I’ve already written a long discussion on how Pokemon promotes animal cruelty and violence. I will not mention it any further in this discussion.

It’s not only this game that’s promoting gender binary. The Sims is another example. It’s a popular life simulation game. I’m sorry but how can that game be a life simulator if the only options available to make a Sim are “male” and “female”?

Now back to pokemon. The game is obviously aimed at children. At a young age, they’re already teaching them about the gender binary. Game developers please stop poisoning the minds of the young and for fuck’s sake add some diversity to the game.

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but brent and joe are just overreaching in a thread that has an otherwise very obvious purpose. to reduce what we're saying in a way that equates it with right-wing dolts who deny these social issues outright is silly. just because there's a parallel between the problems we're discussing here, and a specific form of right-wing rhetoric does not mean we're treading close to their territory whatsoever. there is such a thing as left-wing PC dipshits taking their views to a non-constructive extreme...and taking issue with that does not put you on equal footing with the far right who outright denies social injustices to begin with.
I think that is pretty much what Brent and I are saying. At least, that is what I was saying. I wasn't putting them on an equal footing. I was just saying that given a choice, I would take the left-wing PC thug over the right wing reductionist ignoramus.

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okay, but why even bother pointing that out in this thread? brent's post in particular seems to make the point that there's no validity to our sentiment, and you posted in (relative) agreement.

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i don't think there's any "pc gone mad" overtones in this thread at all. i wouldn't agree that the problem with this stuff is that it's a ridiculous extremity, i think that to imply anything is political correctness going "too far", and therefore that political correctness can go mad, is dangerous. these bloggers most often fail because what they say is simply wrong or downright absurd, it's not even on any kind of pc spectrum. taking that pokemon example, the problem isn't "pc nuts going too far", it's that the author is missing the point entirely. a game with a custom hero like pokemon allowing gender selection is clearly a good thing that's attempting to make its protagonist easier for more people to relate to, not fewer.

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it's that the author is missing the point entirely. a game with a custom hero like pokemon allowing gender selection is clearly a good thing that's attempting to make its protagonist easier for more people to relate to, not fewer.
I'm not sure you've understood this, so this'll sound patronizing if you have, but the authors complaint is that it doesn't allow for people who don't identify as male or female. As if the game should be obligated to incorporate the vast spectrum of genderqueer identities into the game http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genderqueer

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