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Captain Yesterday 11-21-2008 09:37 PM

Do you think music is subjective?
 
My friend just told me that music is subjective, but I feel that people who say this lack the knowledge or the will to analyze the music.


Thoughts?

bristol palace 11-21-2008 09:50 PM

of course it's subjective

everything is subjective

kuje 11-21-2008 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain Yesterday (Post 2101215)
My friend just told me that music is subjective, but I feel that people who say this lack the knowledge or the will to analyze the music.

you could also have said "have a soul".

The Sovereign 11-21-2008 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jase (Post 2101225)
of course it's subjective

everything is subjective

this

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cole 11-21-2008 10:58 PM

this thread should elicit some amazingly pretentious douchebaggery.

Evil Jebus 11-21-2008 10:59 PM

My thought is... duh.

Clark Westfall 11-21-2008 11:00 PM

does this even need to be debated, of course it's subjective. Even if you listened to every genre there is no guarantee you will like every genre of music.

Captain Yesterday 11-21-2008 11:09 PM

Too lazy to fight my battles so I just found a link of some other brighter posters.

CHECK IT OWWWT

Moe Nopoly 11-22-2008 02:20 AM

i think some parts are subjective, but not all. For example, if someone is a good drummer or has a trained voice and is able to master even difficult vocals without the need to break up, is objective for me, but if i like the music they are playing or if the sound of the voice something is i like, is subjective for me.

Run CMB 11-22-2008 02:28 AM

art's subjective

scott 11-22-2008 03:24 AM

what kind of stupid ass fucking question is this?

and you were retarded enough to be on the side that it's not subjective?

kill yourself.

Curtis 11-22-2008 03:48 AM

Of course music is subjective unless you like LCD Soundsystem. Fucking horrid. Fact.

scott 11-22-2008 03:53 AM

well then i suppose it's also fact that this:

Favorite Musical Artist / Band(s)
Foo Fighters, Nirvana, Incubus, Queens of the Stone Age, Rage Against the Machine, Soundgarden, etc.

is the most boring music taste ever conceived by man.

brentmoney 11-22-2008 05:50 AM

lcd soundsystem was probably the worst example he could have used

i mean it's like saying spoon or tv on the radio or something. even if you're not into 'indie' (as much as i hate overusage of that stigma) stuff you'd have to be insane to really think any of them are that bad

nathan 11-22-2008 05:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain Yesterday (Post 2101215)
My friend just told me that music is subjective, but I feel that people who say this lack the knowledge or the will to analyze the music.

based on what you are saying here, i don't know that you are using "subjective" and "objective" properly. how is the notion that all music is left open to interpretation related to not being knowledgeable enough to analyze? the very fact that people analyze it means that there will be varying opinions.

edit: in retrospect, i don't even know why i bothered posting.

Green_Peaness 11-22-2008 06:18 AM

Music is the most subjective thing I can think of...you can only be critical of whether the music is "inspired" or not (whether or not it's musical is all relative).

jim 11-22-2008 06:38 AM

I dont know... Music enjoyment of course is subjective. But can the quality or artistic integrity of music be quantified? I think so, I mean I will say that Bob Dylan is better then Avril Lavigne as a fact, not just an opinion.

Kiyosuki 11-22-2008 06:42 AM

Well it depends on what's being specifically asked but for the most part it kinda goes without saying.

prince jafar allah 11-22-2008 07:38 AM

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kuje 11-22-2008 07:45 AM

and that's [/thread]!

BeyondBeyond 11-22-2008 07:53 AM

Music is first and foremost relative.
Right after that, itīs subjective. After all, everything what we are hearing is actually inside of us.

Clark Westfall 11-22-2008 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain Yesterday (Post 2101293)
Too lazy to fight my battles so I just found a link of some other brighter posters.

CHECK IT OWWWT

and I thought this thread was stupid

Captain Yesterday 11-22-2008 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dead Nigga Storage (Post 2101418)
well then i suppose it's also fact that this:

Favorite Musical Artist / Band(s)
Foo Fighters, Nirvana, Incubus, Queens of the Stone Age, Rage Against the Machine, Soundgarden, etc.

is the most boring music taste ever conceived by man.

True and not subjective.


If someone would enjoy, say Celine Dion's music, just the fact that they like them does not prove that that musical artist is good. Haven't you noticed that everyone that likes shitty music does not take it seriously? If everyone says that music is subjective that will only encourage more shitty musical artists.

brody 11-22-2008 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain Yesterday (Post 2101715)
If everyone says that music is subjective that will only encourage more shitty musical artists.

what the fuck

EDIT: accidentally voted no on the poll. goddamn

Clark Westfall 11-22-2008 02:46 PM

seriously

Captain Yesterday 11-22-2008 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mohammed jafar (Post 2101500)
- avril lavigne is a better singer than bob dylan
- avril sings about contemporary issues, whilst in 2008 bob is still singing about hoppin freights and going down to the river (how come noone is ever actually AT the river)
- bob usually relies on tired verse-verse-verse-repeat-ad-infinitum structure, avril uses such structures as verse-chorus-verse-chorus-bridge-chorus, structures which bob generally makes a bit of an arse of when he tries to use them
- avril is closer to the cutting edge of pop music than bob. come on bobby, wheres your overt m.i.a. influence?

bobby is admittedly sexier ("...ya cant make luueehhve all by yo'seeeeeehhhlfff...") but i dont believe that matters because its all about the music, maaaaan

What the fuck.

SilverEagle 11-22-2008 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain Yesterday (Post 2101715)
If everyone says that music is subjective that will only encourage more shitty musical artists.

Hmm...is this a form of Eugenics you're suggesting here? Perhaps we can weed out the weaklings and breed a race of individuals with supreme musical tastes.

Captain Yesterday 11-22-2008 03:02 PM

I wish, but I'm not sure that genetics has anything to do with musical taste unfortunately.

jim 11-22-2008 05:56 PM

If someone says the Beatles suck, their opinion is wrong. Therefore music quality can be quantified.

scott 11-22-2008 05:56 PM

so basically you're an elitist piece of shit who thinks it's entirely impossible to enjoy quote "bad music" if you're truly well educated and informed on the world of music?

yeah, no. you're a fucking moron.


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